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The New York Times
Letters Give C.I.A.
Tactics a Legal Rationale
By MARK MAZZETTI,
nytimes.com from the Web, April 27, 2008
WASHINGTON — The Justice
Department has told Congress that American intelligence operatives attempting to
thwart terrorist attacks can legally use interrogation methods that might
otherwise be prohibited under international law.
The legal interpretation, outlined in recent letters, sheds new light on the
still-secret rules for interrogations by the Central Intelligence Agency.
It shows that the administration is arguing that the boundaries for
interrogations should be subject to some latitude, even under an executive order
issued last summer that President Bush said meant that the C.I.A. would comply
with international strictures against harsh treatment of detainees.
While the Geneva Conventions prohibit “outrages upon personal dignity,” a letter
sent by the Justice Department to Congress on March 5 makes clear that the
administration has not drawn a precise line in deciding which interrogation
methods would violate that standard, and is reserving the right to make
case-by-case judgments.
“The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack,
rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse, would be relevant to a
reasonable observer in measuring the outrageousness of the act,” said Brian A.
Benczkowski, a deputy assistant attorney general, in the letter, which had not
previously been made public.
Mr. Bush issued the executive order last summer to comply with restrictions
imposed by the Supreme Court and Congress. The order spelled out new
standards for interrogation techniques, requiring that they comply with
international standards for humane treatment, but it did not identify any
approved techniques.
It has been clear that the order preserved at least some of the latitude that
Mr. Bush has permitted the C.I.A. in using harsher interrogation techniques than
those permitted by the military or other agencies. But the new documents
provide more details about how the administration intends to determine whether a
specific technique would be legal, depending on the circumstances involved.
The letters from the Justice Department to Congress were provided by the staff
of Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat who is a member of the Intelligence
Committee and had sought more information from the department.
Some legal experts critical of the Justice Department interpretation said the
department seemed to be arguing that the prospect of thwarting a terror attack
could be used to justify interrogation methods that would otherwise be illegal.
“What they are saying is that if my intent is to defend the United States rather
than to humiliate you, than I have not committed an offense,” said Scott L.
Silliman, who teaches national security law at Duke University.
But a senior Justice Department official strongly challenged this interpretation
on Friday, saying that the purpose of the interrogation would be just one among
many factors weighed in determining whether a specific procedure could be used.
“I certainly don’t want to suggest that if there’s a good purpose you can head
off and humiliate and degrade someone,” said the official, speaking on the
condition of anonymity because he was describing some legal judgments that
remain classified.
“The fact that you are doing something for a legitimate security purpose would
be relevant, but there are things that a reasonable observer would deem to be
outrageous,” he said.
At the same time, the official said, “there are certainly things that can be
insulting that would not raise to the level of an outrage on personal dignity.”
The humiliating and degrading treatment of prisoners is prohibited by Common
Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions.
Determining the legal boundaries for interrogating terrorism suspects has been a
struggle for the Bush administration. Some of those captured in the first
two years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks were subjected to particularly
severe methods, including waterboarding, which induces a feeling of drowning.
But the rules for interrogations became more restrictive beginning in 2004, when
the Justice Department rescinded a number of classified legal opinions,
including a memorandum written in August 2002 that argued that nothing short of
the pain associated with organ failure constituted illegal torture. The
executive order that Mr. Bush issued in July 2007 was a further restriction, in
response to a Supreme Court ruling in 2006 that holding that all prisoners in
American captivity must be treated in accordance with Common Article 3.
Mr. Benczkowski’s letters were in response to questions from Mr. Wyden, whose
committee had received classified briefings about the executive order.
That order specifies some conduct that it says would be prohibited in any
interrogation, including forcing an individual to perform sexual acts, or
threatening an individual with sexual mutilation. But it does not say
which techniques could still be permitted.
Legislation that was approved this year by the House and the Senate would have
imposed further on C.I.A. interrogations, by requiring that they conform to
rules spelled out in the Army handbook for military interrogations that bans
coercive procedures. But Mr. Bush vetoed that bill, saying that the use of
harsh interrogation methods had been effective in preventing terrorist attacks.
The legal reasoning included in the latest Justice Department letters is less
expansive than what department lawyers offered as recently as 2005 in defending
the use of aggressive techniques. But they show that the Bush
administration lawyers are citing the sometimes vague language of the Geneva
Conventions to support the idea that interrogators should not be bound by
ironclad rules.
In one letter written Sept. 27, 2007, Mr. Benczkowski argued that “to rise to
the level of an outrage” and thus be prohibited under the Geneva Conventions,
conduct “must be so deplorable that the reasonable observer would recognize it
as something that should be universally condemned.”
Mr. Wyden said he was concerned that, under the new rules, the Bush
administration had put Geneva Convention restrictions on a “sliding scale.”
If the United States used subjective standards in applying its interrogation
rules, he said, then potential enemies might adopt different standards of
treatment for American detainees based on an officer’s rank or other factors.
“The cumulative effect in my interpretation is to put American troops at risk,”
Mr. Wyden said.
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